Week 17 NFL Picks

new year new money

steve 34-30

ravens -2.5 v Steelers

lions -6 v Bears

Panthers +4 @ buccs

Giants -6 v Colts

coast 31-32-1

Carolina +4, Baltimore -2.5, pats -2.5, aints +5.5

feyes 28-32-4

Jags -3

Lions -6

Vikings +3

Gmen -6

Bills at Bengals MNF Podcast Preview

Week 17! Game of the Year! Steve and Coast review week 16, the Bears, look at the playoff picture and talk about the biggest game of the year in Cincinnati. 

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week 16 nfl picks

blizzard of cash

steve 32-28

dolphins -3.5 v packers

browns-3 v saints

vikings v giants over 49.5

steelers -2 v raiders

coast 29-30-1

Cinci -3, Philly +4.5

Sea +10, buf -8

feyes 26-30-4

Saints browns U 32

Boys -4.5

Hawks +10

Lions -2.5

Buffalo Bills at Chicago Bears Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast breakdown the Dolphins victory, talk a lot about WEATHER and look ahead to the Bears and the rest of the 2022 season. Bengals for real?

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week 15 nfl picks

snf

steve 31 - 25

bills -7 v dolphins 

vikings -3.5 v colts

cardinals +3 @ broncos

giants +4.5 @ Washington 

coast 27-28-1

Buffalo Miami u44

Eagles -9

Gmen +4.5

Falcs +4

feyes 23-29-4

Eagles -9

Bengals -3.5

Miami  +7

Browns -3

Dolphins at Bills Saturday Night Football Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast discuss Jerry Sullivan, the surprisingly decent Jets, Cole Beasley and the Saturday night show down with the hated Miami Dolphins.

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Week 14 NFL Picks

$unday

steve 30 -22

jets at bills over 43

ravens at steelers over 36.5

titans -3.5 v jaguars

texans +17 @ cowboys

coast 25-26-1

Ravens +2, Dallas-17, chargers +3, Tampa +3.5

feyes 22-26-4

Browns +5.5

Gmen +7

Bucs +3.5

Jets +10

New York Jets at Buffalo Bills Podcast Preview Week 14

Steve and Coast breakdown the AFC playoff picture, discuss Von Miller, the Patriots victory and look ahead to the NY Jets in a big AFC East battle.

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week 13 nfl picks

leggo

steve 27-21

vikings -3 v jets

giants +2 v wash

bears +3.5 v gb

steelers @ falcons under 42.5

coast 23-24-1

🔐 Titans +4.5, Miami +4, Minnesota -3, Denver +9.5

feyes 19-25-4

Det. Jax U 51

Gmen +2

Mia sf O 46.5

Titans eagles O 44

Bills at Patriots TNF Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast discuss the Lions victory from Thanksgiving and look ahead to the AFC East match ups and the Thursday Night Football battle with the Patriots in Foxboro.

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week 12 nfl picks

no bills, earn em

steve 25-19

wash -4 v falcons

ravens @ jaguars over 43.5

bengals @ titans over 43

saints +8.5 @ 49ers

coast 21-22-1

Jags +3.5, titans +1.5, 

Miami -14, Green Bay +6.5

feyes 18-22-4

Seahawks -4

Tenn +1.5

ATL Wash O 40.5

49ers -8.5

Bills at Lions Thanksgiving Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast break down the Browns game the AFC and look ahead to the Thanksgiving match up with the Detroit Lions. Get right game?

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week 11 NFL Picks

snow

steve 24-16

giants -3 v lions

raiders @ broncos under 41

vikings +1.5 v cowboys

steelers +3.5 v bengals

coast 18-21-1

Pitt 3.5, Dallas -1.5, LAC +5, aints -2.5

feyes 15-21-4

Panthers +13

Raiders +3

Cowboys -1.5

Jets +3.5

Cleveland Browns vs the Bills in Detroit Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast argue about moving the damn game to Detroit, how the fuck did they blow the game to the Vikings and touch on the Browns game in Ford Field.

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week 10 NFL Picks

Fall ya'll lets ball

steve 20-16

chiefs -9 v jaguars

giants -4.5 v texans

vikings @ bills over 42.5

dolphins -3.5 v browns

coast 17-18-1

Buf -3, jags +9, titans -2.5, Dallas -4

feyes 15-17-4

Bears -3

Raiders -4.5

Vikes bills U 42.5

Cowboys-4

Vikings at Bills Podcast Preview Week 10

Steve and Coast talk Josh Allen, the awful Jets loss and the upcoming 7-1 Vikings in week 10

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week 9 NFL PICKS

Extra hour of sleep szn

steve 17-15

Packers at Lions over 49.5

Patriots -5.5 v Colts

Jaguars +2 v Raiders

Titans +12.5 @ Chiefs

coast 17-15

Buffalo -11, Indianapolis +5.5, Carolina +7 and Washington +3

feyes 14-17-1

Minny -3

Atl +3

Bucs-3 

Bengals -7

Bills at Jets Week 9 2022 Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast review the SNF win against the Packers, look around the NFL, the trade deadline and breakdown a surprising 5-3 Jets team.

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week 8 nfl picks

snf get wet

Nfl picks 

steve 15-13 

bears +10 @ cowboys

panthers +4 @ falcons

vimings -3.5 v cardinals 

rams pick

Feyes 12-15-1 

Cowboys -10

Gmen Hawks O 44.5

49ers pick

GB Buff O 47

Coast 15-13 

Pitt +10.5, Detroit +3.5, San Fran Pick,  pats -2.5

Packers at Bills SNF Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast review the close win against the Chiefs last week, breakdown the AFC East, Josh Allen, Sean McDermott and look ahead to a big game against the Packers on Sunday Night Football

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week 7 NFL Picks

bye week buy week!

steve 14-10

chiefs -1 @ 49ers

texans +6.5 @ raiders

seahawks @ chargers under 50.5

patriots -8 v bears

coast 13-1

Pats -8, Seahawks +4.5, titans -2.5, Denver +1.5 

feyes 10-13-1

Falcons +6.5

Gmen +3

Seahawks +4.5

panthers v buccs over 39.5

Week 6 NFL PICKS

Get it

steve 10-10

steelers +9.5 v buccs

bengals @ saints over 43

colts -1.5 v jags

chargers v broncis under 45.5

coast 10-10

Jets +7.5

Cowboys +6.5

G men +5.5

Rams -10

feyes 8-11-1

Gmen +5.5

Vikings -3

Bucs -9.5

Cowboys +6.5

2022/23 Buffalo Sabres Preview Predictions

by steve

Evidently the Buffalo hockey team, the Sabres (im told) start their season tonight. So lets write a short preview.

 For some reason they just gave their head coach and general manager contract extensions. Don Granato, career loser, isnt disliked by the fanbase (if you can say th3 Sabres have one) but might actually be beloved. Because he isnt Phil Housley or the soccer idiot (Ralph "disaster" Krueger) I suppose. Kevyn Adams was widely panned as the GM when he was hired but has gotten some earned respect by not being Tim Murray (and not getting completely pantsed in the Eichel debacle). 

But hey, Pegula is off pretending to be a successful NFL owner and his wife is still filming weekend at Bernie's 3. So why not reward these dudes for being not-the-last-guy embarrassing. I mean they did finish 11th in the Eastern Conference and 25 points out of a playoff spot (only 22 points out if they were in the West). Improvement!

Theyre +475 to make the playoffs, their over under pt total is 76.5. +2500 to win the division. Vegas aint buying it.

Everyone and their brother in the media is pretending to be positive, picking over point total but not to make the playoffs. Cute

Dahlin and Power need to be world beaters and this team of all 3rd line players needs them mostly all to play as 2nd line players. If that happens, id predict 76 points.

The goalies still suck

Bills at Chiefs Week 6 Podcast Preview 2022

Steve and Coast review the Steelers and look ahead to their biggest rivals, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid and the Chiefs. Is it a must win? Predictions, rants, debate ensue.

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Week 5 NFL Picks

if not now then when?

steve 7-9

Seahawks +5 @ Saints

Falcons +10 @ Buccs

Jets +3.5 v Dolphins

Cardinals +5.5 v Eagles

coast 7-9

Texans +7

Dallas +5.5

Browns +1.5

Falcs +10

feyes 6-9-1

Pack -8

Hou +7

Mia jets U 45

Falcons +10

Steelers at Bills Podcast Preview Week 5 2022

Steve and Coast look back at the epic comeback on the Ravens, is the offense good enough? And do the Steelers have a chance as 14 point dawgs at the Ralph on Sunday? Steeler talk the last 5 minutes of the podcast.

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Week 4 NFL Picks

Lotta action 

Steve 6-6

Vikings -3.5 v Saints

Texans +5.5 v Chargers

Titans +3.5 @ Colts

Seahawks @ Lions under 47.5

Coast 6-6

Baltimore +3, houston +5.5, falcs +1.5, pack -9.5

Feyes 3-8-1

Buff balt U 50.5

Gmen -3

Atl +1.5

Hou +5.5

Bills at Ravens Week 4 Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast along with two special guests that pop in the zoom break down the devastating Dolphins loss and look ahead to a huge AFC match up at the Ravens.

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Week 3 NFL Picks

South Beach weeeeek

steve 5-3

Bills at Dolphins over 53

chiefs -5.5 @ colts

chargers -3 v jaguars

Packers @ Buccs under 42

coast 5-3

Detroit +6 at vikes 

WFT +6.5 vs eagles 

Raiders -1.5 at Ten

Jets +6 vs cinci 

feyes 1-7

Dallas Gmen O 39

Falcons +1

Chef's Colts U 50.5

Jets +6

Bills at Dolphins Week 3 Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast review the Titans beat down on Monday Night Football and look ahead to a division show down with the Miami Dolphins down in South Beach. Can Tua go toe to toe with Josh Allen?

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week 2 nfl picks

week two

steve

balt -3.5

tb v NO over 43.5

jets +6.5 @ cle

cardinals +5.5 @ raiders

coast

Browns -6.5, Steelers +2.5, Miami +3.5, and GB -10.5

feyes

Pittsburg +2.5

Cincy -7

Jets browns u 39.5

Colts -3

Titans at Bills MNF Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast review the Rams victory and breakdown the heated Titans v Bills rivalry. Vrabel gonna steal another one? Everyone loves Allen? WGR550 fuckin sucks? Leggggo

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Week 1 NFL Picks

A new season, a new contest. we pick 4 games against the spread every week thru week 18. Leggo 

Steve

Panthers -1 v Browns

Texans +7.5 v Colts 

Steelers +7 @ Bengals

Dolphins-3.5 v Patriots

Coast

Houston +7.5

Atlanta +5.5

Baltimore -6.5

Raiders +3.5

Feyes

Jags +3

Falcs Saints O 43

Raiders +3.5

Broncos -6.5 (MNF)

Buffalo Bills 2022 game by game predictions

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2022 game by gsme predictions 

Steve is listed first, Coast second

Week 1 @LA

Loss. Win

Week 2 Tenny

Win. Win

Week 3 @Miami

Loss. Win.

Week 4 @Balt

Loss. Win

week 5 Pitt

Win. Loss

Week 6 @KC

Loss. Loss.

Week 7 GB

Win. Win

Week 8 NYJ

Win. Win

Week 9 Minny

Loss. Win

Week 10 Cle

Win. Win

Week 11 @Det

win. Win

Week 12 NE

Win. Win

Week 13 @Jets

Win. Win

Week 14 Mia

Win. Win

Week 15 @Chi

Win. Win

Week 16 @Cinci

Loss. Win

Week 17 @Ne

Win. Loss

Final Records

Steve 11-6

Coast 15-2

2022 Buffalo Bills Season Preview Podcast

Another season is upon us and Steve and Coast preview the entire season, give their predictions and look ahead to the Rams on TNF. Easily our clearest sounding most crisp recording in our 15 years doing this. Enjoy

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Buffalo Bills Betting Line for 2022 Season

by steve

Draft Kings has released spreads for every game in 2022. Here are the Bills betting line spreads for the entire 2022 season:

+1 at Rams

-7 (-120) v Titans

-3.5 at Dolphijs

-1 at Ravens

-8 vs Steelers

-1.5 at Chiefs

-4 vs Packers

-6.5 at Jets

-7.5 vs Dolphins

no line for Browns

-8 at Lions

-3 at Patriots

-9.5 vs Jets

-6 vs Dolphins

-7 at Bears

pick em vs Bengals

-7 vs Patriots

Bills are favored in 14 games, dawgs once, pick em once and no line for Browns. Most surprising line is at Chiefs. Im gonna bet Bills -6 vs dolphins at home in December right now.

2022 Buffalo Bills Draft Review Grade

by steve

Before the long boring offseason starts lets review the Bills 2022 NFL Draft performance. 

First, the picks:

Round 1. 23 Kaiir Elam CB Florida 

Round 2. 63 James Cook RB Georgia 

Round 3. 89 Terrel Bernard LB Baylor 

Round 5. 148 Khalil Shakir WR Boise State

Round 6. 180 Matt Araiza P SD State

Round 6. 185 Christian Benford CB Villanova 

Round 6. 209 Luke Tenuta OT Va Tech

Round 7. 231 Baylon Spector LB Clemson

Brandon Beane did a bit of everything in the draft. They traded up in the first, they traded back twice in the second and even drafted a punter with the first pick of the 6th round.

Somewhat surprisingly they drafted 8 players, 3 on offense, 4 on defense and the punt god.

Allegedly the receiver is a steal, the 3rd round LB is a tweener that seems to fit McDerr's style and the second corner might move to safety. Out of my 7 Bills needs heading into the draft, Beaner took 5 of the 7 I wanted.

The runningback Cook has pedigree and seems to be a playmaker in the passing game. Plus he wasnt a first round pick. Actually the Bills got multiple extra picks moving back twice and still got him. He seems like he will complement Singletary and Moss. I like it even if he only averaged 8 touches a game last year. 

Elam fills a big need if he can start. The punter is a punter. Not sure about Shakir. He seems to be a gadget guy that will replace McKenzie eventually but isnt a big outside guy.

I wanted a big splash and to dump Tremaine Edmunds. Didnt happen. Beane didnt trade any big picks from future years and got a bunch of bodies. Not bad

Grade:

B-

1st Round Pick Buffalo Bills Kaiir Elam CB

Bills used a 4th to move up 2 spots to take 20 year old cornerback Elam.

Grade C+

Dont love it but dont hate it.  Fills a need.

Final 2022 NFL Mock Draft

by Steve

Here is my beloved mock draft:

First here is our 4 man mock draft and Bills needs posts from earlier in this week and the mock draft round up review and draft predictions.

1. Jaguars - Travon Walker 

2. Lions - Aiden Hutchinson 

3. Texans - Ikem Ekwonu

4. Jets - Kayvon Thibadeaux

5. Giants - Charles Cross

6. Panthers Kenny Pickett

7. Giants - Sauce Garner

8. Falcons - Derek Stingley

9. Seahawks - Evan Neal

10. Jets Jameson Williams

11. Wash - Garrett Wilson

12. Vikings - Jermaine Johnson

13. Texans- Drake London

14. Ravens - Trent McDuffie

15. Eagles - Chris Olave

16. Saints - Trevor Penning

17. Chargers - Kenyon Greene

18. Eagles - Davonte Wyatt

19. Saints - Jordan Davis

20. Steelers - Malik Willis W

21. Patriots - Quay Walker

22. Packers - Kyle Hamilton

23. Cardinals - Tyler Linderbaum

24. Cowboys - Zion Johnson

25. Bills - Daxton Hill

26. Titans - David Ojave

27. Buccs - Kaiir Elam

28. Packers - Jahan Dotson

29. Chiefs- Tre Burks

30. Chiefs - Kyler Gordon

31. Bengals - Lewis Cine

32. Lions - Tyler Smith

2022 NFL Draft Predictions

by steve

Prediction time! The first round of the NFL Draft is mere hours away so lets print our predictions:

First here is our 4 man mock draft and Bills needs posts from earlier in this week and the mock draft round up review.

The Bills wont take a cornerback in the first round. Beane knows McDerr can find a CB anywhere. Look who started for them the last few years, 7th round Dan Jackson, Levi undrafted Wallace, UB Cam Lewis etc. Part of this is because Tre White is on the opposite side and part of it seems to be that McDerr can actually coach up a secondary. 

Despite me wanting Beaneboy to package Tremaine Edmunds and make a move up for a stud WR there will be no big move today. They arent taking a runningback Thursday either.

Other rando predictions:

Skyy Moore isnt going in the first round.

Ditto for big boy George Pickens.

No quarterback will be drafted top 10 and only 2 go day 1. 

No runningbacks 

Under 6.5 wide receivers get drafted round 1.

The Jets fuck up the draft but get a high draft grade.

Ditto for the Giants.

The panthers and Lions also fuck up bad. Although, if they don't like a QB they shouldn't just take one to take one. But does anyone trust anyone at either of those organizations? No.

Who are the Bills going to draft PREDICTIONS:

Steve: Daxton Hill safety Michigan 

Dubs: Kaiir Elam corner Florida

Coast: Breece Hall RB Iowa State

Wreck: Christian Watson WR SD State

Sano: Skyy Moore WR Western Mich

my druthers:

Go wide Receiver why not. Get weapons score points. I can live w a RB but dont love it.  Safety over corner, no oline first 2 days, or.. MAKE A SPLASH. Trade Edmunds and move up or just grade him and find a LB Friday.

Best bet is move back to early 2nd round, get Breece Hall and use the extra pick(s) to move up and get a WR somewhere early, then linebacker w an edmunds trade.

2022 Buffalo Bills Mock Draft Review

by Steve

Lets take a look at what the supposed paid professionals are picking for the Buffalo Bills in the 2022 NFL Draft. 

Here is our 4 man mock draft and Bills needs posts from earlier in the week.

Dan Jermiah nfl.com

Breece Hall

I can't find another prospect capable of having a bigger impact for the Bills at this selection. Hall would be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Grade C+

Peter Screager NFL network

Breece Hall RB Iowa St

I'm told Buffalo is going either running back or defensive back with this pick. Comped to Matt Forte, Hall is the choice.

Shockingly I am warming up to the idea of a RB. If this dude is a stud for four years and makes the offense better I can live with it. Is it wise? Is it a good value? Obviously not. Can a RB in any round be as good and a tenth of the price ? Sure. But Hall has a lot of boxes checked to aid the offense in a real way. Not picking up his 5th year option though hurts. Best bet is to trade back to early 2nd and hope hes there.

Grade C+

Walterfootball

Andrew Booth

We know the Bills wanted Eric Stokes last year, but the Packers snatched him off the board. Cornerback hasn't been addressed since, so I expect that to be the pick here unless all viable options aren't available once again. The Bills need players who can defend all the great quarterbacks in the AFC, after all.

Starting a pattern of all corners jeez.

Grade C-

Mike Florio PFT

25. Bills: Trent McDuffie, cornerback, Washington.

They need help in the secondary, especially with Tre'Davious White returning from a torn ACL.

Uninspired 

Grade: C

Dan Kelly The Ringer

Kaiir Elam

The Bills really don’t have any glaring needs but if they want to get over the hump in the AFC, taking an excellent cover corner here in Elam shouldn’t hurt. He’d pair nicely with Tre’Davious White to give Buffalo more talent in the back end.

Corner is a need but cant McDerr find one anywhere?

Grade C+

Jay Skurski TBN

Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson. In the end, the most logical position ends up being the pick for General Manager Brandon Beane. It’s hard to ignore the need in the Bills’ secondary, especially with the uncertainty around when Tre’Davious White will be ready to play coming off a knee injury. Booth was a second-team All-Atlantic Coast Conference selection in 2021 after finishing with 37 tackles, three interceptions and five passes defensed in 11 starts.

The final line of Booth’s nfl.com scouting report neatly summarizes why he makes sense for the Bills: “He needs to play more football, but his ball-hawking instincts, burst to close and toughness in run support will be very appealing for zone teams looking for an upgrade at cornerback.”

That sounds like a prospect who will fit in nicely to Sean McDermott's defense.

Didn't want to post this PAB's mock since he blocked us but i will any way. Booth a reach at 25

Grade D+

2022 NFL Mock Draft 4/27/22

Here is a live 4 person mock draft for the upcoming 2022 NFL Draft. Bills needs published yesterday. For logistical purposes there are no trades. The order went Core, Steve, Dubs, Wreck non snake. (C, S, D, W)

1. Jaguars - Walker C

2. Lions - Aiden Hutchinson S

3. Texans - Evan Neal D

4. Jets - Ickey Ekwanu W

5. Giants - Thibadeaux C

6. Panthers Kenny Pickett S

7. Giants - Stingley D

8. Falcons - Garrett Wilson W

9. Seahawks - Matt Corral C

10. Jets Kyle Hamilton S

11. Wash - Drake London D

12. Vikings - Sauce Gardner W

13. Texans- McDuffie C

14. Ravens - Charles Cross S

15. Eagles - Jameson Williams D

16. Saints - Jordan Davis W

17. Chargers - Trevor Penning C

18. Eagles - Davonte Wyatt S

19. Saints - Ty Smith D

20. Steelers - Malik Willis W

21. Patriots - Zion Johnson C

22. Packers - Trae Burks S

23. Cardinals - David Ojabe D

24. Cowboys - Daxton Hill W

25. Bills - Skyy Moore C

26. Titans - Chris Olave S

27. Buccs - Andrew Booth D

28. Packers - Boye Mafe W

29. Chiefs- Jahan Dotson C

30. Chiefs - Jermaine Johnson S

31. Bengals - Kyler Gordon D

32. Lions - George Pickens W

2022 NFL Draft Preview: Buffalo Bills Needs

by steve

The draft is at 8pm Thursday and its time to feed the beast. Here are the Bills needs heading into the 2022 NFL Draft. They are scheduled to pick at 11:15 Thur night.

Bills 2022 Draft Picks

Round 1: 25

Round 2: 57

Round 3: 89

Round 4: 130

Round 5: 168

Round 6: 185 (from Car) & 203

Round 7: 231

A perennial playoff team with a franchise quarterback and an allegedly great defense usually doesn't have a lot of holes. The 2022 Buffalo Bills fall into this exact description. Are there weaknesses in the roster? Of course, but no spot on the team is crying out for attention, which obviously is a great place to be.

Here is my ranking of biggest need on the current roster but not necessarily what position should b targeted first.

1. Cornerback

Tre White is coming off a late season ACL tear and wont be 100% to start the season. The other starting corner from 2021 plays for the Steelers and the position was all but ignored in free agency. Dane Jackson Cam Lewis et al might be serviceable but they are mid at best.

2. Wide Receiver 

Diggs just got paid and Gabe Davis is emerging but behind that is a lot of question marks. McKenzie, Crowder, Kumerow, Stevenson, Hodgins?? Yikes.

3. Linebacker

Tre Edmunds needs to be traded or walk in free agnecy and thus a hole will be created. MLB isn't an important position but they'll still need bodies.

4. Safety 

If Poyer doesn't get an extension this will be the number one need on the team. Not sure whay happen to that allegedly great tandem in the final 13 seconds vs KC but Hyde and Poyer will be tough to replace and improve on.

5. Tightend

Knox might want too much cash soon and bama boy OJH is only on a one year deal. Tommy Sweeney a bum.

6. Center

Sure Mitch Morse got an extension but he is old. Day 3 definitely. 

7. Runningback

Singletary is ok and Moss is worse. A speedy straight line guy or a pass catching RB would make a difference. 

2022 American League Over Under Win Totals

by steve

Lets predict the over under win totals for the American League. Here is the NL predictions.

AL East

NY Yankees 91.5

Division tougher that it might seem. Under

Toronto Blue Jays 92.5

Under but barely

TB Rays 89.5

Dont they always win? Over

Boston Red Sox 85.5

This division is brutal, under

Baltimore Orioles 62.5

They dont even want to win, under

Central

Chicago White Sox 91.5

Minnesota Twis 81.5

This team had everything go wrong last year. Over

Cleveland Guards 76.5

Yuck, under

KC Royals 74.5

Ill take 75 wins, over

Detroit Tigers 77.5

Seems like theyre getting buzz, over

West

Houston Astros 91.5

Yuck, over

LA Angels 83.5

Is there a bigger disappointment in sports? 84 is still a disappointment, over

Seattle Mariners 83.5

Some day, maybe. Over

Texas Rangers 74.5

No clue, under

Oakland A's 68.5

Banging the over

2022 National League Over Under Win Totals

by steve

A tradition unlike any other, predicting the over under win total for each MLB team. First up the National League:

(lines from DK)

East

NY Mets 88.5

Under, this team is cursed

Atlanta Braves 91.5

Freeman is gonna be missed. Under

Philadelphia Phillies 86.5

Prove me wrong. Under

Florida Miami Marlins 77.5

Time for a jump, over.

Washington Nationals 71.5

Are they young or old? 72 wins, over.

Central

Milwaukee Brewers 89.5

Someone has to be good in this division, over.

Chicago Cubs 75.5

Inflated number, under.

St Louis Cardinals 84.5

Doesn't this team always grind to contention? Over

Cincinnati Reds 74.5

A year away, under

Pittsburgh Pirates 65.6

The Marines/Sabres best friend. Under

West

LA Dodgers 98.5

They'll get to the century mark. Over

SF Giants 86.5

Last year mighta been a fluke but thats a major drop off. Over

SD Padres 89.5

Frauds, under

Colorado Rockies 68.5

Yuck, under

Arizona Diamondbacks 67.5

Gimme 68 wins, over

Bills Get New Stadium, Buffalo & Fans Lose

by steve

Who asked for any of this? I've been to every Bills game (sans 2020) since 2004 and know dozens of Bills season ticket holders. You know the one thing they never asked for? A new more expensive stadium.

The State, the Bills and Erie County agreed to a $1.4 billion new stadium that will allegedly open in 2026 (yeah sure). The state pays $600m, county (one of the poorest in the US) pays $250m , the fans pay $300m w PSLs, and the NFL pays $200m.

Miraculously Terry Pegula, valued at $6.2 billion, who bought the Bills less than ten years ago for $1.3 billion and has since doubled in value, PAYS ZERO DOLLARS.

Incredible.

One complaint I do hear from fans is the rain and wind that ruins the in game experience.  So of course the new stadium is going to be covered right? Nope open air.

When was the last time you were at the current stadium on any day other than a Bills game? Try it some time. There are 2 bars (one changes names every 3 years), a gas station a couple motels and the beloved KK Mart.

So if we are going to give this guy a damn near $1,000,000,000.00 we are going to put it downtown where at least some spinoff development will occur with public transit right? Nope, it is going right across the street.

More details, 10,000 less seats, the Bills keep all parking, concessions, ticket sales etc oh and it has natural grass.

But at least we get some nice fancy renderings and all the plans have been laid out for the public to oogle at right? Nope, zero plans have been released! Not even one drawing.

But wait, there is more! PSLs. Yup every season ticket holder gets to pay $1500 (at least and likely more) per seat just to be able to buy their season ticket! And let me guess, prices wont double triple or quadruple.  And pigs fly.

So, we still get rain and wind, tickets won't cost $53 any more, I have to pay up front $1500+ and have to move to a much worse seat since there is little chance they'll have a cheap Labatt zone in the 200 level w great sight lines. 

Oh and since it is way out in the burbs, open air, nothing around it, no public transit, basically it can only be used for 10 Bills games, some stadium tours, 3 concerts a year and a soccer game every other year it will sit empty for 325 days a year. Awesome.

So how did Terry bamboozle us so badly?

Three keys as far as I can tell. Create a sense of urgency,  get the local media (who is desperately dependent on the Bills for ad revenue, content etc) on your side, and pretend Terry might move the team.

Create Urgency

The stadium is going to collapse in just a few years!!!

Wait what? Surely they released the independent study that proves the upper deck is going to collapse and there is no way the current stadium could be renovated. No way they will let us continue to pile in to a stadium that will return back to the earth in a pile of dust at any time, right? Uh, nevermind i guess. Nope, private study, never released. Lets just take their word for it.

Get the local media on your side.

Local media to me is the 3 TV stations, wgr550 and the Buffalo News. Just scan the newspaper the last few weeks and you will find zero negative stories about it except maybe a Rod Watson column. The TV stations don't really do anything.  WGR550 will say negative things about the money on Schopp and the Bulldog but they nearly bite their tongues off not absolutely ripping the whole thing. The morning rubes are Terry cheerleaders but arent from here and are Jets & Giants fans (true).

Vaguely threaten to move the team.

Austin might want a team! Or Toronto! London! Oklahoma city???

So Terry Pegula, who owns the Sabres, Labatt House, Harbor Center and a few other things is going to move the Buffalo Bills out of town (not Texas, Jerry aint having it) to a foreign city with no football stadium and no fan base or pick a random city that isnt NY LA Chicago or Texas, again with no stadium built and no plans?

The Rams paid $550mil relocation fee to leave St Louis on top of a $790 mil lawsuit they settled with the city of St Louis to move to LA which had no other team yet and privately built a $5bil stadium. The Chargers paid $650mil relocation fee to the other NFL owners and the Raiders paid $378 mil relocation fee.

So Terry, who cant afford a hill of beans despite promising to drill an oil well if he needs more cash, is gonna shell out at least a billion dollars and abandon the city of Buffalo? He would surely have to sell all of his holdings because he wouldn't be allowed to step foot in this city again after that betrayal and never return, ever. Then build up a new fan base, a new brand and try to shakedown another municipality to build a stadium just because we refruse to give him $850 mil for a replica stadium across the street used 25 times a year?

Where the fuck has the planning by the politicians and community been the last 20 years? Where is the transparency?  The discussions? A colossal failure on all ends.

One thing I will give Terry credit for. The timing is perfect. The state and county are flush with cash from federal covid government payouts, the Seneca money (if they ever actually pay) and the team is really good.  Imagine them asking for this money and stadium after Doug Marrone's tenur.

Where is the loyalty to the die hard fans?

I fear the new stadium will be a soleless, shiny pile of junk. Over priced concessions, overpriced tickets and few real fans. No one cares about hanging out inside a stadium for an NFL game. No one sits down for a $25 burger inside a stadium during Bills v Chiefs when they just ate boozed and partied for 5 hours outside. Sure the seats are a bit close, the bathrooms arent abundant and some seats are metal. But that is what Buffalo is. We are losing it all. I hope Im wrong. 

SEC Tournament Brackets

Here are all the submitted brackets for our SEC Tourny challenge 

10 brackets submitted

$105 to first place

$45 to second place

standings after day 1

wreck -2

jake - 2

dubs -2

steve, schrum, feyes, thur, reags, betti - 1

coast - 0

standings after day 2

wreck 8

feyes 7

jake, dubs 6

steve, schrum betti 5

thur reags 3

coast 2

*****final standings*****

wreck - 26

feyes - 21

reagan - 18

steve -15

jake - 15

schrum- 14

betti -14

coast - 11

dubs -9

thur -9

coast

Ole miss,Georgia

 Florida,ole miss,Msu,Bama

 Auburn,Ark,Tenn,Uk

 Auburn,Uk

 Auburn

153

Feyes 

1. Ole Miss, Vandy

2. FLA, LSU, State, Vandy

3. Auburn, LSU, Tenny, UK

4. LSU, Tenny

Champ.- Tenny 137

Schrum

Ole Miss,Vanderbuilt

Florida,LSU,MIss State,Bama

Auburn,Ark,Tenn,UK

Ark,UK

UK

181

wreck

Missou Vandy

A & M. LSU South Carolina 

Vandy

Auburn Ark Tenn UK

Auburn Tenn

Tenn 130

thur

Vandy and Ole miss. 

Florida lsu SC Bama. 

Auburn lsu tenn UK. 

Auburn UK. 

UK. 

156

Dubs

Rd1

Mizzou,Vanda

Rd2

Tex A&M,LSU,Gamecocks,Bama

Rd3

Auburn,LSU,Gamecocks,Tucky

Rd4

LSU,Tucky

Rd5

Tucky

142 pts

steve 

ole miss, vandy

a&m, lsu, So Car, bama

aub, lsu, tenny, uk

aub, tenny

aub

148

Reags

ole miss, vandy

fla  lsu, so car, bama

aub, ark, tenny, bama

aub, tenny

tenny

126

jake

mizz, Vandy 

fla, lsu, so car, vandy

aub, ark  tenn, uk

ark, uk

ark

163

betti

ole miss, vandy

fla, lsu, miss st, bama

aub, ark, tenny, uk

ark, uk

uk

149

2022 NCAA Tournament Long Shot Best Bets

by steve

The tournament of 64 starts in 8 days. Conference tourneys are ramping up and selection Sunday is Sunday. There is no better time than now to throw some long shot odds on all our favorite apps.

Here are a few I banged this week:

Odds to make the final 4:

Houston +950

Arkansas +1300

Murray State +3200

St Marys +2400

TCU +4200

Odds to win the whole damn thing:

UConn +7000

Houston +4000

Arkansas +5000

Tennessee +4000

Illinois +4000

Memphis +9500

Lets all just hope chalk faucks off and Gonzaga loses next weekend.

Leggggo

SEC Tournament Bracket Challenge

The greatest time of the year! 

ACC sucks this year so we are doing an SEC tournament bracket instead.

here is the bracket

send to wnywatercooler@gmail.com 

$15

venmo, paypal, zelle cash accepted

all money will be paid out

payout depends on turnout.

include total points of the final for a tie breaker.

bracket due by 3/9/22 6pm Wednesday before Ole Miss v mizzou tips

point system is 1 point for round 1, 2 points for 2nd round winners etc.

tell your friends family, loved ones, neighbors mail carrier. legggo

Conference Championship Sunday CCS Picks

ccs leggo 13 seconds

steve 4-6

chiefs -7 v bengals 

49ers @ rams over 45.5

coast 4-6

bengals +7 @ chiefs

49ers +3.5 @ rams

feyes 3-6-1

KC -7

Sf LA U 45.5

Divisional Round NFL Picks

DRW!

Steve 3-3

Bengals at Titans over 47.5

Packers -5.5 v 49ers

Rams at Buccs over 48

Bills +2 at Chiefs

coast 2-4

Titans -3.5, San Fran +5.5, rams +2.5, buf +2

feyes 0-5-1

Cincy tenny U 47.5

Sf GB U 47

Rams BUCS  O 48

Buff +2

Bills at Chiefs Divisional Round Playoff Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast relive the Patriots beat down in the wildcard round and look ahead to the Chiefs. Are the Titans for real? Predictions, prop bet talk and more...

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WCW Wild Card Weekend NFL Picks

steve won the rrgular season and some how all 3 of us were above .500

Lets reset and go at it again in the playoffs

steve

bills -4.5 v Patriots

Raiders @ Bengals over 48

buccs -8 v Eagles

49ers @ cowboys over 51

chiefs -12.5 v steelers

cardinals +4 @ rams

coast

Raiders +6, bills -4.5, eagles +8, niners +3, Pitt +12.5 , Zona +4

feyes

LV+6

Bills pats U 43.5

Eagles BUCS O 46

Dal -3

Pitt +12.5

Zona +4

Patriots at Bills Playoff Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast review the Jets game and look ahead to a battle with the Patriots. can Mac Jones come in to Buffalo in frigid conditions and win a playoff game? Predictions, prop bets and a look at the rest of the AFC playoffs.

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week 18 nfl picks

it all comes down to this

steve 36-31-1

browns-5 v bengals

colts -15 v jags

dolphins +6 v patriots

jets @ bills over 40.5

coast 33-34-1

Texans +10.5, Indy -15, vikes -4, raidas +3

feyes 36-32

Chargers -3

Panthers +8.5

Colts -15

Lions +3

Jets at Bills Week 18 Podcast Preview

Steve and Coast review the Falcons game, breakdown the AFC playoff picture and try to conceive of a way the Bills lose to the Jets in a division clinching game.

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week 17 nfl picks

failclowns

steve 34-30

raiders +8 @ colts

panthers +6 @ saints

bills v falcons over 44

ravens +6 v rams

coast 32-31-1

Buffalo Bills -14.5 

 Raidas+8

Bucs -13

Rams -6

feyes 33-31

Chefs Bengals O 51

Pack -13

Gmen bears U 36.5

Phins +3